Phillips v. Sheriff of Cook County, No. 15-1616 (7th Cir. 2016)
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Plaintiffs, current and former detainees, brought a class action under 42 U.S.C. 1983 against Cook County, claiming that the level of dental care at the Jail demonstrated deliberate indifference in violation of the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. The court originally certified two classes of plaintiffs under FRCP 23, but later decertified one class and modified the other, finding that the Jail’s implementation of a consent order with the Department of Justice eliminated a common question concerning inadequate staffing and brought care into compliance with national standards. The court could not find another common factor among the claims, noting that “treatment of dental pain may fall below the deliberate indifference threshold for many reasons and at many stages.” The court then determined that the detainees’ motion for injunctive relief was moot. While an appeal was pending, the detainees unsuccessfully moved for a new trial (FRCP 60(b)) based on newly discovered evidence. The Seventh Circuit affirmed, upholding decertification of the classes because of the lack of a common issue of fact or law. The detainees’ questions do not point to the type of systematic and gross deficiency that would lead to a finding that all detainees are effectively denied treatment; they did not allege a specific policy that directly causes delay, nor a pattern of egregious delays across the entire class. Filing a Rule 60(b) motion during the interlocutory appeal was inappropriate; there was no final judgment in the case.
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In the United States Court of Appeals For the Seventh Circuit ____________________ Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 MELVIN PHILLIPS, et al., Plaintiffs Appellants, v. SHERIFF OF COOK COUNTY, et al., Defendants Appellees. ____________________ Appeal from the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division. No. 1:09 cv 00529 — Joan Humphrey Lefkow, Judge. ____________________ ARGUED FEBRUARY 11, 2016 — DECIDED JULY 6, 2016 ____________________ Before KANNE, RIPPLE, and WILLIAMS, Circuit Judges. RIPPLE, Circuit Judge. Plaintiffs Melvin Phillips, Mal colm Patton, Rodell Sanders, and Frank Powicki are current and former detainees of Cook County Jail (the “Jail”). They brought a class action under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against Cook County, Illinois, and the Sheriff of Cook County (collec tively, “Cook County”), claiming that the level of dental care they received at the Jail demonstrated deliberate indifference in violation of the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. The 2 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 district court originally certified two classes of plaintiffs un der Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23. However, the district court subsequently decertified one class, modified the other class, and determined that the detainees’ motion for injunc tive relief was moot. The detainees timely appealed the dis trict court’s decision to decertify. While that appeal was pend ing, the detainees moved for a new trial under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 60(b) based on newly discovered evidence, but the district court denied the motion. The detainees timely appealed this denial as well, and we consolidated the two ap peals. We now hold that the district court acted well within its discretion in decertifying the two classes because of the lack of a common issue of fact or law. Further, the filing of a Rule 60(b) motion during this interlocutory appeal was inap propriate because there was no final judgment in the case. Moreover, because the district court took no action that sub stantially altered its decision on the decertification issue, we cannot treat its disposition of the Rule 60(b) filing as the ap peal from a motion for reconsideration. Accordingly, we af firm the district court’s decision to decertify the class and dis miss the appeal from the court’s disposition of the Rule 60(b) motion. I The plaintiffs ask us to review two aspects of the proceed ings in the district court. First, they ask that we review the decision to decertify a class of litigants. Second, they ask that we review the district court’s disposition of the Rule 60(b) mo tion. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 3 We first address the district court’s decision to decertify the classes that it had previously certified. This issue requires, as our colleague in the district court correctly recognized, that we apply the decision of the Supreme Court in Wal Mart Stores, Inc. v. Dukes, 564 U.S. 338 (2011), a task we have under 1 taken several times before. A. This case got underway when a former detainee at the Jail brought a civil action in the Northern District of Illinois on January 27, 2009, alleging that Cook County showed deliber ate indifference in its administration of dental care. Five de 2 tainees subsequently joined the lawsuit. On November 10, 2010, the district court ordered that the case proceed as a class action under Federal Rule of Civil Pro cedure 23(b)(2) for “[a]ll persons presently confined at the … Jail who are experiencing dental pain and who have waited more than seven days after making a written request for treatment of that pain without having been examined by 3 a dentist.” At that time, the court was of the view that the 1 See, e.g, Bell v. PNC Bank, Nat’l Ass’n, 800 F.3d 360, 374–75 (7th Cir. 2015); Chi. Teachers Union, Local No. 1 v. Bd. of Educ. of Chi., 797 F.3d 426, 433 (7th Cir. 2015); Suchanek v. Sturm Foods, Inc., 764 F.3d 750, 755 (7th Cir. 2014); Butler v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 727 F.3d 796, 801 (7th Cir. 2013); Jamie S. v. Milwaukee Pub. Schs., 668 F.3d 481, 493 (7th Cir. 2012). 2 The originally named plaintiff, John Smentek, is no longer a part of the case for reasons not disclosed by the record. 3 R.68 at 15. When certifying a class, a district court must first find that the four requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23(a) have been met: 4 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 class members shared a common question based on the “de fendants’ decision to reduce dental services at the jail, partic ularly in reducing the number of dentists employed there to 4 one.” The district court concluded in a subsequent order that the case could also proceed as a class action under Rule 5 23(b)(3). After discovery, the detainees moved for preliminary and permanent injunctions on January 6, 2014. They asked the dis trict court to require the defendants: 1. To screen health service requests com plaining about dental pain on a daily ba sis, 2. To provide a procedure for detainees complaining about dental pain to obtain prompt access to pain reduction medi cine (e.g., ibuprofen), and 3. To maintain records of requests for den tal treatment, including dates inmates (1) numerosity; (2) commonality; (3) typicality; and (4) adequacy of repre sentation. Once the district court determines that these four requirements have been met, the court must then determine whether the class meets the requirements of one of the categories listed in Federal Rule of Civil Proce dure 23(b). Rule 23(b)(2) concerns classes that seek classwide injunctive relief. Rule 23(b)(3) concerns classes that present claims where common questions predominate. 4 R.68 at 13. 5 The defendants took an interlocutory appeal from this order on grounds unrelated to this current appeal. We affirmed the district court’s grant of certification. Smentek v. Dart, 683 F.3d 373, 377 (7th Cir. 2012). Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 5 are scheduled to be examined by dental personnel, dates inmates are actually ex amined by dental personnel, and docu mentation of cancellation or failure to ap pear for dental treatment or examina tion.[6] In response, the defendants moved to decertify the classes. The district court stayed briefing on the motion to decertify and then held a six day bench trial on injunctive relief in June 2014. The pleadings and the record of the bench trial establish the following facts. The Jail has a population of approximately 9,500 detainees. The average length of stay at the Jail is fifty seven days, and the median length of stay is twelve days. Cermak Health Services (“Cermak”), a division of the Cook County Bureau of Health, provides dental care to the detainees at the Jail. In 2008, the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) filed an action under the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act (“CRIPA”), 42 U.S.C. § 1997 et seq., which charged, among other allegations, that the Jail provided “inadequate medical care.” United States v. Cook Cty., Ill., 761 F. Supp. 2d 794, 796 7 (N.D. Ill. 2011). Cook County entered into a consent order with the DOJ in May 2010, agreeing to improve conditions at 6 R.236 at 1. 7 The DOJ’s lawsuit is not directly related to this class action, which began in January 2009. However, this lawsuit provides some important back ground, and many of the reports created pursuant to that lawsuit are rel evant in this dispute. 6 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 the Jail and to allow regular monitoring from the federal gov ernment. The consent order mandates that: a. Cermak shall ensure that inmates receive adequate dental care, and follow up, in accordance with generally accepted cor rectional standards of care. Such care should be provided in a timely manner, taking into consideration the acuity of the problem and the inmate’s anticipated length of stay. Dental care shall not be limited to extractions. b. Cermak shall ensure that adequate den tist staffing and hours shall be provided to avoid unreasonable delays in dental care.[8] Prior to the DOJ action, in 2007, Cermak employed only one dentist, and his sole contribution to the inmates’ dental health was extractions. As of 2014, however, Cermak employed seven dentists, two dental hygienists, and seven dental assis tants. The plaintiffs’ expert, Dr. Jay Shulman, described this 9 level of staffing as “optimum.” Upon experiencing dental pain, a detainee can either com plain directly to a nurse or officer, or submit a Health Service Request form (“HSR”). Under Cermak’s policy, HSRs must be retrieved daily and reviewed by a registered nurse. When the 8 R.71 2 at 37. 9 R.449 at 146. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 7 HSR includes a complaint about dental pain, the policy re quires that a qualified health professional examine the de tainee within twenty four hours. Despite the policy, Dr. Shul man opined that “face to face examinations by nursing staff 10 are not consistent[ly]” performed. HSRs are then provided to the dental clinics. The clinics categorize the requests as emergency, urgent, priority, or rou tine. Appointments are then scheduled based on the type of request. A 2014 monitor’s report found that “[t]he current dental wait time for immediate and urgent HSRs is one to three days. Routine dental HSR wait time is reported to be about 30 days. It unfortunately remains true, however, that it is extremely difficult [if] not impossible to verify the dental 11 wait time.” After an initial appointment, Cermak may schedule either a return appointment or an oral surgery at Stroger Hospital. Detainees who believe their care was inadequate at any stage in this process can file a grievance with a counselor at the Jail. Any grievances which concern medical issues are forwarded to Cermak and then faxed directly to a member of the dental staff if they involve dental needs. Eight detainees testified about their dental treatment on behalf of the plaintiffs. Because their testimony is necessary for an understanding of the issues on appeal, we set it forth in some detail. Jonathan Williams testified that he complained 10 Id. at 86. 11 R.384 at 78. The district court took judicial notice of this monitor’s report after trial. See R.389. 8 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 of tooth pain in April 2010 and had a tooth extracted in June 2010. However, he “believe[d] they took out the wrong tooth. 12 And [he] notified them.” According to Mr. Williams, he was seen by the dental clinics about a dozen more times over the next three years, where he received fillings and tooth clean ings. Several times, the dentists referred Mr. Williams to Stroger for oral surgery related to the tooth that should have been extracted and provided him with pain medication. How ever, Mr. Williams did not undergo surgery. He then submit ted several HSRs related to pain in early 2013, which did not receive a response. Mr. Williams again was referred to Stroger in March 2014, and finally had his tooth extracted in May 2014. At the bench trial in early June 2014, Mr. Williams noted that he had “stitches in [his] mouth right now that just hang[] down,” and that, despite requests for assistance, “they have 13 n t been addressed.” Terrance Olden testified that he submitted a series of HSRs beginning in January 18, 2013, in which he complained of a toothache and asked that his tooth be extracted. He said that, at least by January 28, 2013, he “was supposed to be sched 14 uled to get a tooth pulled.” Mr. Olden did not get evaluated at Stroger until June 10 and did not get his tooth extracted un til October 11. Mr. Olden acknowledged that he saw a dentist ten different times throughout 2013 for different treatments. Mr. Olden also acknowledged that he was prescribed and then received pain medication eleven times during that same 12 R.449 at 197. 13 Id. at 212. 14 R.451 at 215. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 9 period. However, he testified that there were times, prior to the extraction, in which he did not have pain medication— and that he submitted HSRs to that effect. Mr. Olden further testified that he submitted an HSR on January 10, 2014, and on “that same night[,] a nurse came on 15 the deck to issue medication” and “s[aw] [his] face.” He also submitted an HSR on January 13 and two more on January 15, but did not receive face to face evaluations. Mr. Olden had a dental appointment “sometime at the end of the month of Jan 16 uary” 2014. The dentist extracted a tooth, and Mr. Olden tes 17 tified that the pain subsided. John Saiger testified that a piece of his wisdom tooth broke off on March 23, 2013. He submitted two successive HSRs, but did not receive a face to face evaluation. Mr. Saiger then sub mitted a grievance on June 5, noting that he had not received an evaluation. In response, the Jail scheduled a dental ap pointment for the end of June. Mr. Saiger then moved divi sions, and the appointment was rescheduled. He did not re ceive a dental appointment until September 2013. At that time, the dentist determined that an extraction would be nec essary and told Mr. Saiger that a return appointment would be scheduled in a week. However, Mr. Saiger did not return 15 Id. at 211. 16 Id. at 213. 17 Mr. Olden opted out of the class and filed an individual lawsuit. The parties in Mr. Olden’s case submitted a stipulation of dismissal. Stipula tion, Olden v. Cook Cty., No. 1:13 cv 05283 (N.D. Ill.) (R.66). 10 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 to the clinic and have his tooth extracted until January 19, 18 2014. Kenneth Weatherspoon had a tooth extracted by Cermak in 2012. He testified that he submitted an HSR on April 4, 2013, complaining of an abscess in his upper right jaw, where the tooth had been extracted. He did not receive a face to face evaluation, but he was seen by a dentist on April 23. The den tist examined Mr. Weatherspoon and referred him to Stroger 19 “[b]ecause there was nothing that she could do.” Mr. Weath erspoon submitted several grievances, but, at the time of the bench trial in May 2014, he had not had an appointment at Stroger. He did testify that he had two appointments in the dental clinic in 2014, one for an examination and one for a fill ing. Orlando Allen testified that he had submitted two or three HSRs complaining of dental pain before he received an ap pointment sometime around May 17, 2013. At that appoint ment, the dentist determined that Mr. Allen’s tooth was too 18 Mr. Saiger also opted out of this class and has an individual lawsuit pending. Saiger v. Dart, No. 13 C 5495, 2015 WL 1433076, at *1 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 26, 2015); see also Saiger v. Dart, No. 13 C 5495, 2016 WL 98573, at *5 (N.D. Ill. Jan. 8, 2016). 19 R.450 at 116. The parties appear to dispute the reason that the dentist referred Mr. Weatherspoon to Stroger. Mr. Weatherspoon testified that he was referred for “oral surgery.” Id. at 118. However, Cook County con tends that he “was referred to Stroger for a pathology consult not an ex traction.” Appellees’ Br. 11. The dentist testified that she could not find anything wrong with Mr. Weatherspoon’s gums and referred him to Stroger to see if they could identify something that she had missed. R.452 at 141. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 11 swollen to be removed at that time. Mr. Allen was pre scribed—and subsequently received—ibuprofen and penicil lin. His tooth was then operated upon a few days later, on May 23, 2013. Mr. Allen also testified that he experienced a separate dental issue in October 2013. He submitted an HSR on October 28, received a face to face evaluation on October 29, and then visited the dental clinic on October 31. Quentin Scott testified that he submitted an HSR com plaining of tooth pain on August 6, 2013. That same day, he had a face to face evaluation with a physician’s assistant who prescribed aspirin and ibuprofen. Mr. Scott then saw a dentist two days later, on August 8. The dentist referred him to Stroger and prescribed antibiotics and pain medication. Mr. Scott did not receive the medication for at least one month. On November 5, 2013, Mr. Scott visited Stroger and had x rays taken. Mr. Scott did not visit Stroger again until March 28, 2014, when his teeth were extracted. Stanford Thompson testified that he chipped his tooth during lunch sometime in August 2013 and asked a correc tions officer if he could be sent to a medical unit. The officer refused and instead told Mr. Thompson to fill out an HSR. Mr. Thompson submitted an HSR, but he did not receive an evaluation. A few weeks later, Mr. Thompson visited the dis pensary for an unrelated issue and informed the doctor of his tooth pain. The doctor prescribed ibuprofen, but Mr. Thomp son never received the medication. Mr. Thompson then filed a grievance on August 27, 2013. He subsequently saw a den tist in early September, who prescribed medication (which Mr. Thompson received) and informed him that he had been “scheduled to get the tooth pulled … September 19th. But when she s[aw] the state of it, … she was going to speed up 12 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 20 the process.” Mr. Thompson’s tooth was extracted on or 21 around September 10, 2013. Jason Knickrehm testified that he submitted an HSR on October 8, 2013, complaining of a broken tooth and a tooth ache, but did not receive any response. He submitted a second HSR and a grievance on October 20. Mr. Knickrehm was then seen in urgent care the next day and was prescribed medica tion. However, he testified that he never received that medi cation. Mr. Knickrehm was then seen in the dental clinic on November 21. The dentist determined that a few of Mr. Knick rehm’s teeth would need to be extracted, and expressed an intention to schedule that appointment within the next week. However, Mr. Knickrehm did not receive a return appoint ment until December 19. Three days earlier, on December 16, Mr. Knickrehm submitted a grievance that complained about his wait. The dentist only extracted one tooth at this appoint ment and then prescribed additional medication. Mr. Knick rehm did not receive that prescription, and the remaining teeth were not extracted until January 31, 2014. 20 R.452 at 31. 21 Like Mr. Olden and Mr. Saiger, Mr. Thompson opted out of the class and filed an individual lawsuit. A district court granted a motion for sum mary judgment in favor of the defendants in that case. Thompson v. Taylor, No. 13 C 6946, 2016 WL 164340, at *11 (N.D. Ill. Jan. 14, 2016). Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 13 After considering this evidence, the district court denied the motion for a preliminary injunction. The court later decer tified the Rule 23(b)(2) class, modified the Rule 23(b)(3) class, and denied the motion for a permanent injunction as moot. First, the court looked at the commonality requirement of Rule 23(a)(2). The court explained that the class members’ claims needed to “share some question of law or fact that can be answered all at once and that the single answer to that question will resolve a central issue in all class members’ 22 claims.” In its original certification, the court found a com mon question concerning the inadequately low number of dental staff. However, the increase in the number of dentists eliminated this common question. Further, Cermak had im plemented policies that aligned with national standards. The court could not find another common factor among all of the detainees’ claims, noting that “treatment of dental pain may fall below the deliberate indifference threshold for 23 many reasons and at many stages.” The court therefore found that the merits of each plaintiff’s claim of deliberate in difference would necessarily “depend[] on the facts of the in 24 dividual case.” The detainees proposed some new common questions, particularly ones about the Jail’s failure to provide face to face evaluations within twenty four hours of an HSR and its failure to provide timely return to clinic appointments. However, the court found that these questions “raise[d] two 22 R.390 at 14–15 (emphasis omitted) (internal quotation marks omitted). 23 Id. at 16. 24 Id. at 17. 14 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 separate causes” for a detainee’s pain, which proved that there was no common issue that could be assessed class 25 wide. Further, neither of these allegations pointed to a sys tematically deficient practice. The court concluded that the commonality requirement was not met. The court noted that it “could end its inquiry here” be cause its Rule 23(a)(2) analysis required that both classes be decertified.26 It nevertheless went on to address, for the sake of completeness, the Rule 23(b) requirements for each class. After observing that there was no longer a single identifiable remedy that could help all class members, the court granted the defendant’s motion to decertify the Rule 23(b)(2) class. The court then discussed whether a class could be certified under Rule 23(b)(3). The court concluded that the Rule 23(b)(3) class could be modified to encompass only those de tainees whose claims arose when the Jail had only one dentist, because their claims presented a common question of deliber ate indifference. This class’s claims are still pending in the dis trict court. Finally, the court explained that, because it decertified the Rule 23(b)(2) class, the motion for a permanent injunction was moot. In other words, without a certifiable class, the court saw no need to consider the underlying merits of the petitioners’ claims. The detainees timely appealed the court’s order. 25 Id. at 17. 26 Id. at 18. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 15 B. The district court’s foundational reason for decertifying both classes was that the bench trial had established that the detainees had not presented “questions of law or fact com mon to the class.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 23(a)(2). We review a district court’s decision regarding class certification for abuse of dis cretion. Suchanek v. Sturm Foods, Inc., 764 F.3d 750, 755 (7th Cir. 2014). Of course, “legal determinations made in support of the decision are reviewed de novo.” Jamie S. v. Milwaukee Pub. Schs., 668 F.3d 481, 490 (7th Cir. 2012). 1. When determining whether to certify a class, a district court first must find that the requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23(a) are met: (1) the class is so numerous that joinder of all members is impracticable (numer osity); (2) there are questions of law or fact com mon to the class (commonality); (3) the claims or defenses of the representa tive parties are typical of the claims or defenses of the class (typicality); and (4) the representative parties will fairly and adequately protect the interests of the class (adequacy of representation). Fed. R. Civ. P. 23(a) (parentheticals added). Here, the district court’s focus, and therefore our concern, is the commonality 16 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 requirement: whether “there are questions of law or fact com mon to the class.” Id. The Supreme Court recently clarified the contours of this commonality requirement. In Wal Mart Stores, Inc. v. Dukes, current and former employees alleged, on behalf of 1.5 million members of a class, that the company had denied them equal pay or promotions on the basis of sex, in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e 1 et seq. 564 U.S. at 344–45. The employees did not contend that Wal Mart had an express corporate policy of sex discrimination. In stead, they contended that Wal Mart provided local manag ers with undue discretion over pay and promotion, which re sulted in an unlawful disparate impact on female employees. Id. In their view, Wal Mart was liable for these decisions be cause of “its refusal to cabin its managers’ authority” and its “strong and uniform ‘corporate culture’” that “permit[ted] bias.” Id. at 345. The Court determined that the employees’ claims lacked commonality and therefore decertified the class. The Court began by observing that “[a]ny competently crafted class complaint literally raises common ‘questions.’” Id. at 349 (al teration in original) (internal quotation marks omitted). To demonstrate commonality for the purposes of Rule 23(a)(2), however, a prospective class must show that its claims “de pend upon a common contention … of such a nature that it is capable of classwide resolution—which means that determi nation of its truth or falsity will resolve an issue that is central to the validity of each one of the claims in one stroke.” Id. at 350. The Court noted that this analysis may “entail some over lap with the merits of the plaintiff’s underlying claim.” Id. at Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 17 351. Further, courts are not simply applying a pleading stand ard; instead a prospective class “must be prepared to prove that there are in fact … common questions of law or fact.” Id. at 350 (emphasis in original). However, the Court made clear that “even a single common question will do.” Id. at 359 (al terations omitted) (internal quotation marks omitted). Applying this standard to the employees’ claims, the Court held that the employees had failed to identify a class wide policy or practice which applied to all of the class mem bers. The employees objected to the company’s grant of dis cretion to employers, but they had “not identified a common mode of exercising discretion that pervades the entire com pany.” Id. at 356. The employees also alleged that a corporate culture existed, but they had failed to present evidence that demonstrated that such a culture would be provable at trial or that this culture caused the alleged disparity. Id. at 353–55. The Court concluded that the employees “wish[ed] to sue about literally millions of employment decisions at once. Without some glue holding the alleged reasons for all those decisions together, it will be impossible to say that examina tion of all the class members’ claims for relief will produce a common answer.” Id. at 352 (emphasis omitted). In the wake of Wal Mart, we have made clear that a pro spective class must articulate at least one common question that will actually advance all of the class members’ claims. For instance, when students brought a class action against a pub lic school district, alleging that the district delayed or denied entry into individualized education programs (“IEPs”) in vi olation of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (“IDEA”), 20 U.S.C. § 1440 et. seq., we held that the students had not identified a common question: 18 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 To illustrate the commonality problem in the certified class, consider two hypothetical stu dents within the class: one has a disability and would be eligible for special education but has never been identified as being disabled nor gone through the IEP process; another was identified as disabled and received a timely IEP meeting, but the child’s parents did not attend the IEP meeting and were not notified of their right to do so. Both scenarios involve violations of the IDEA, but what common question can be answered that would assist the court in deter mining [the district’s] liability for each? On the plaintiffs’ theory, that question is something like this: Did [the district] fulfill its IDEA obli gations to each child? But while that generic question is surely a part of both children’s claims, it must be answered separately for each child based on individualized questions of fact and law, and the answers are unique to each child’s particular situation. Jamie S., 668 F.3d at 498; see also Suchanek, 764 F.3d at 756 (“Where the defendant’s alleged injurious conduct differs from plaintiff to plaintiff, … no common answers are likely to be found.”). We noted that “an illegal policy might provide the ‘glue’ necessary to litigate otherwise highly individual ized claims as a class,” but that the plaintiffs had not pre sented any proof of such a policy. Jamie S., 668 F.3d at 498 (em phasis omitted) (quoting Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 352); see also Bolden v. Walsh Constr. Co., 688 F.3d 893, 898 (7th Cir. 2012) (affirming the decertification of a class where the plaintiffs Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 19 challenged a series of individual employers’ decisions but failed to identify a company wide policy). By contrast, we have held that consumers who brought claims of fraudulent representation against a seller of phar maceuticals presented a common question concerning whether the seller had made fraudulent statements that a drug had been “‘clinically tested’ and ‘scientifically formu lated.’” Mullins v. Direct Dig., LLC, 795 F.3d 654, 673 (7th Cir. 2015). The seller contended that the consumers were arguing that the drug was “ineffective” and that this argument would “depend[] on individual factors such as the severity of the consumer’s pre use medical condition, the consumer’s pat tern of use, and other potentially confounding variables.” Id. We rejected the seller’s characterization of the plaintiffs’ claims, explaining that their “claims do not rise or fall on whether individual consumers received health benefits” but rather “whether [the seller’s] representations were decep tive.” Id. That latter question, we held, could be answered in one stroke. Id.; see also Bell v. PNC Bank, Nat’l Ass’n, 800 F.3d 360, 374–75 (7th Cir. 2015) (finding a common question where a group of employees alleged that their employer had an “un official policy” of requiring unpaid overtime hours and sub mitted affidavits from a branch manager and regional man ager alluding to such a policy); Butler v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 727 F.3d 796, 798 (7th Cir. 2013) (finding that one class of con sumers presented a common question whether a washer de sign caused mold to accumulate and that another class pre sented a common question whether a washer control unit caused the machine to shut down). We also have emphasized that the common question pre sented by a prospective class of plaintiffs need not resolve 20 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 every issue in the case. See Suchanek, 764 F.3d at 756 (“Neither Rule 23 nor any gloss that decided cases have added to it re quires that every question be common. It is routine in class ac tions to have a final phase in which individualized proof be submitted.” (emphasis in original)). In McReynolds v. Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith, Inc., 672 F.3d 482 (7th Cir. 2012), for example, we found a common question where employers had brought a classwide challenge to two employment poli cies that potentially had a discriminatory impact. Id. at 488– 89. We observed that “should the claim of disparate impact prevail in the class wide proceeding, hundreds of separate tri als may be necessary to determine which class members were actually adversely affected … . But at least it wouldn’t be nec essary in each of those trials to determine whether the chal lenged practices were unlawful.” Id. at 491. Similarly, in Chicago Teachers Union, Local No. 1 v. Board of Education of Chicago, 797 F.3d 426 (7th Cir. 2012), we consid ered whether educators could bring a classwide challenge, on the basis of race based discrimination, to a three step review process that identified “deficient” schools and then replaced the faculty and staff from those schools. Id. at 429–31. The first two steps in this process were objective and general, but the third step arguably was individualized to each school. Id. at 435. We held that “if the plaintiffs allege that the objective cri teria in the first two steps narrowed the pool in such a way as to have a disparate impact on African American teachers (and indeed they do), then this is the glue that binds the claims to gether without regard to the later, subjective step.” Id. at 436. In other words, a court could determine whether the first two steps in the process were discriminatory on a classwide basis, even if a challenge to the last step in the process could not be Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 21 27 adjudicated classwide. In all of these cases, however, the an swer to a common question of law or fact resolved a key ele ment of all of the plaintiffs’ claims. Our sister circuits have similarly required plaintiffs to ar ticulate at least one common question that is central to the res olution of all of their claims. See, e.g., Sykes v. Mel S. Harris & Assocs. LLC, 780 F.3d 70, 84 (2d Cir. 2015) (“Consideration of [the commonality] requirement obligates a district court to determine whether plaintiffs have suffered the same injury.” (internal quotation marks omitted)); DL v. Dist. of Columbia, 713 F.3d 120, 126–27 (D.C. Cir. 2013) (collecting cases and not ing that, “[i]n the absence of identification of a policy or prac tice that affects all members of the class in the manner Wal Mart requires, [a] district court’s analysis is not faithful to the Court’s interpretation of Rule 23(a) commonality”); M.D. ex rel. Stukenberg v. Perry, 675 F.3d 832, 843 (5th Cir. 2012) (“Wal Mart requires district courts to specifically delineate how a class proceeding would allow the court to resolve a dis crete question of law whose determination ‘will resolve an is sue that is central to the validity of each of the [individual plaintiff’s] claims in one stroke.’” (quoting 564 U.S. at 350)). 27 We went on to hold, however, that the third step in the process did pre sent a common question of fact or law. Even though that step was individ ualized to each school, determinations were still being made by “one de cision making body, exercising discretion as one unit.” Chi. Teachers Un ion, 797 F.3d at 440. We contrasted the educators’ challenge to the chal lenges against the decisions of the board with the challenges against the decisions of “thousands of individual managers” in Wal Mart and the de cisions of “countless school district employees” in Jamie S. Id. at 439. 22 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 A determination of commonality often requires a precise understanding of the nature of the plaintiffs’ claims. In Par sons v. Ryan, 754 F.3d 657 (9th Cir. 2014), a case arising in a context not too different from the one here, our colleagues on the Ninth Circuit considered whether prison inmates could bring a series of Eighth Amendment challenges on a class wide basis. The court noted that “commonality cannot be de termined without a precise understanding of the nature of the underlying claims” presented by the plaintiffs. Id. at 676. Upon analyzing the claims, the court concluded that “class members are as one in their exposure to a particular and suf ficiently well defined set of allegedly illegal policies and prac tices, rather than only in their advancement of a general Eighth Amendment legal theory.” Id. at 679. The court noted, for example, the plaintiffs’ allegations that the prison severely understaffed medical facilities and had a practice of placing inmates in isolation with insufficient nutrition. Id. at 679–80. The court emphasized that the plaintiffs had provided actual proof of these illegal policies and practices, as opposed to “ut terly threadbare allegations.” Id. at 683. For these reasons, the court found common questions. The governing principle at the heart of our inquiry is therefore well established and regularly applied: a common question “must be of such a nature that it is capable of class wide resolution” in order to satisfy the requirements of Rule 23(a)(2). Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350. “The critical point is ‘the need for conduct common to members of the class.’” Suchanek, 764 F.3d at 756 (emphasis in original) (quoting In re IKO Roof ing Shingle Prods. Liab. Litig., 757 F.3d 599, 602 (7th Cir. 2014)). The common question (or common questions) need not ad dress every aspect of the plaintiffs’ claims, but it must “drive Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 23 the resolution of the litigation.” Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350 (in ternal quotation marks omitted); see also Chi. Teachers Union, 797 F.3d at 434. It must “resolve an issue that is central to the validity of each one of the claims in one stroke.” Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350. 2. Here, the detainees contend that the district court misread Wal Mart and its progeny. In their view, the district court de manded that the detainees present a single common question rather than allowing for multiple common questions. In other words, the detainees argue that the district court imposed a “ceiling” of a single common question when it should have 28 imposed a “floor.” Had the district court imposed a cap on the number of common questions, as the detainees suggest, its decision could not be justified by the teaching of Wal Mart. Cf. In re IKO, 757 F.3d at 603 (finding commonality where plaintiffs presented four common questions); Parsons, 754 F.3d at 664, 679 (identifying ten practices or policies that each represented a common question). We think it clear, however, that the de tainees’ characterization of the district court’s ruling is with out any foundation. Rather, after noting the Rule’s require ment that the district court consider whether the detainees 29 had presented “questions of law or fact common to the class,” 28 Appellants’ Br. 17. 29 R.390 at 14 (emphasis added) (quoting Fed. R. Civ. P. 23(a)(2)). 24 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 the court concluded that “there is no longer a single question the answer to which would resolve a significant issue in the 30 case.” This statement hardly means that the district court de certified the class because the detainees presented too many common questions; the court decertified the class because the detainees had not presented even one question that could “re solve an issue that is central to the validity of each one of the claims in one stroke.” Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350. The district court correctly understood the holding of Wal Mart. 3. The detainees further maintain that the district court abused its discretion by concluding that the detainees had not presented any common questions of fact or law for the pur poses of Rule 23(a)(2). As the Supreme Court noted, analysis of this question will “entail some overlap with the merits of the plaintiff’s underlying claim” of deliberate indifference. Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 351; see also Parsons, 754 F.3d at 676. We therefore pause to set forth the standards for deliberate indif ference claims under the Eighth and Fourteenth Amend 31 ments. 30 Id. at 17. 31 “The Eighth Amendment’s ban on ‘cruel and unusual punishments’ re quires prison officials to take reasonable measures to guarantee the safety of inmates, including the provision of adequate medical care.” Minix v. Canarecci, 597 F.3d 824, 830 (7th Cir. 2010). We note that some members of the class are pretrial detainees and that “the Eighth Amendment applies only to convicted persons.” Id. at 831. However, in this context, the present Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 25 “Deliberate indifference occurs when a defendant realizes that a substantial risk of serious harm to the prisoner exists, but” intentionally or recklessly “disregards that risk.” Berry v. Peterman, 604 F.3d 435, 440 (7th Cir. 2010); see also Estelle v. Gamble, 429 U.S. 97, 106 (1976). We have identified “two dis tinct categories of deliberate indifference claims” pertaining to medical treatment. Cleveland Perdue v. Brutsche, 881 F.2d 427, 430 (7th Cir. 1989). First, there are “claims of isolated in stances of indifference to a particular inmate’s medical needs.” Id.; see also Berry, 604 F.3d at 440. For these claims, a plaintiff must show that he suffered from an objectively seri 32 ous medical condition and that the defendant was deliber ately indifferent to that condition. Perez v. Fenoglio, 792 F.3d 768, 776 (7th Cir. 2015); see also Arnett v. Webster, 658 F.3d 742, 750–51 (7th Cir. 2011). Second, there are “claims that systemic deficiencies at the prison’s health care facility rendered the medical treatment constitutionally inadequate for all in mates.” Cleveland Perdue, 881 F.2d at 430–31. For these claims, plaintiffs must demonstrate that “there are such systemic and gross deficiencies in staffing, facilities, equipment, or proce dures that the inmate population is effectively denied access to adequate medical care.” Wellman v. Faulkner, 715 F.2d 269, case law holds that “pretrial detainees … are entitled to the same basic protections under the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process clause. Ac cordingly, we apply the same legal standards to deliberate indifference claims brought under either the Eighth or Fourteenth Amendment.” Id.; see also Smentek, 683 F.3d at 374. But see Kingsley v. Hendrickson, 135 S. Ct. 2466, 2475 (2015) (holding that there are different standards for sentenced prisoners and pretrial detainees in the case of excessive force claims). 32 We have held that tooth decay and similarly severe dental pain “can constitute an objectively serious medical condition.” Berry v. Peterman, 604 F.3d 435, 440 (7th Cir. 2010). 26 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 272 (7th Cir. 1983) (quoting Ramos v. Lamm, 639 F.2d 559, 575 (10th Cir. 1980)). After hearing the evidence at trial, the district court took the view that the detainees’ claims were best characterized as “claims of isolated instances of indifference to a particular in mate’s medical needs.” Cleveland Perdue, 881 F.2d at 430. There certainly is a substantial basis for such a determination. Some of the detainees contend that they did not receive a prompt response to their HSR but otherwise received timely and responsive treatment. Others contend that they received an evaluation within a day of submitting their HSR but they then experienced a significant delay before a return appoint ment. Still others allege that they saw a dentist and were pre scribed medicine but did not receive the prescribed medicine. Just like the students in Jamie S., each of whom encountered unique difficulties caused by different actors as they under went the IEP process in their schools, there is no common question here that addresses all of these detainees’ claims at once. See 668 F.3d at 498. The detainees each present a differ ent situation that involved a different type of dental pain, took place at a different time, involved different medical profes sionals and prison staff, and concerned a different alleged de ficiency in the treatment process. Cf. Chi. Teachers Union, 797 F.3d at 439–40 (finding commonality where a single deci sion making body enforced a general, albeit discretionary, policy). The detainees nevertheless ask us to focus especially on two questions of fact that they believe to be “common” among all their claims of deliberate indifference: (1) Does the Jail’s continuing failure to re quire a face to face evaluation from a Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 27 registered nurse within 24 hours of a written complaint of dental pain result in gratuitous pain? (2) Does the failure of the Jail to provide timely “return to clinic” appointments result in preventable and gratuitous pain?[33] Both of these questions concern delays, albeit different sorts of delays, in medical treatment. We previously have held that when assessing deliberate indifference claims, a delay in med ical treatment “is not a factor that is either always, or never, significant. Instead, the length of delay that is tolerable de pends on the seriousness of the condition and the ease of providing treatment.” McGowan v. Hulick, 612 F.3d 636, 640 (7th Cir. 2010); see also Kress v. CCA of Tenn., LLC, 694 F.3d 890, 893 (7th Cir. 2012) (approving a district court’s observation that “the level of medical care required … will vary depend ing on each inmate’s circumstances”). The more significant the dental pain, the more immediate is the need for treatment. In determining whether such complaints can be characterized appropriately as presenting a common question susceptible to class resolution, careful examination of the context is cru cial. One of our earlier cases illustrates this point. In Harper v. Sheriff of Cook County, 581 F.3d 511 (7th Cir. 2009), we had to consider whether a class bringing Fourth Amendment claims presented common questions about the length of detention. 33 Appellants’ Br. 23; see also R.390 at 17 (district court identifying these two proposed common questions). 28 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 Id. at 515. We explained that the “constitutionality of [any] de tention depends on whether the length of the delay … was reasonable in any given case.” Id. As a result, “[l]iability, to say nothing of damages, would need to be determined on an individual basis.” Id.; see also Portis v. City of Chicago, Ill., 613 F.3d 702, 705 (7th Cir. 2010) (“Because reasonableness is a standard rather than a rule, and because one detainee’s cir cumstances differ from another’s, … class certification is in 34 appropriate.”). In the same way, the constitutionality of a wait for medical treatment will depend on a variety of indi vidual circumstances. See McGowan, 612 F.3d at 640. These questions can only be answered by looking at the unique facts of each detainee’s case. In light of their contextual nature, the district court did not abuse its discretion in concluding that the questions the detainees present about the length of delay in medical treatment are incapable of being solved on a class wide basis. See Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350. A consideration of each of the detainees’ proposed ques tions makes clear the hurdle that cannot be overcome. First, the detainees claim that the Jail fails to provide a face to face evaluation from a registered nurse within twenty four hours of a complaint. However, simply establishing that detainees at the Jail consistently wait more than twenty four hours does not advance materially any individual’s claim of deliberate 34 Both Harper v. Sheriff of Cook Cty., 581 F.3d 511, 515 (7th Cir. 2009), and Portis v. City of Chicago, Ill., 613 F.3d 702, 704 (7th Cir. 2010) concerned whether common issues predominated under Rule 23(b)(3), and not whether the class had failed to present a single common issue under Rule 23(a)(2). However, both cases made clear that a question about the length of detention could not be common to the class. Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 29 35 indifference. See Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 350 (asking whether the question “drive[s] the resolution of the litigation” (inter nal quotation marks omitted)). Again, an earlier Fourth Amendment case illustrates the point well. When plaintiffs brought a class action challenging any detention following a custodial arrest that lasted more than two hours, we held that the class should be decertified. Portis, 613 F.3d at 703–04. We explained that, “[g]iven the contextual nature of analysis un der the fourth amendment,” imposing “an inflexible two hour rule” would be “impossible.” Id. at 704. Just as a rigid two hour rule could not be imposed under the Fourth Amendment, a rigid twenty four hour rule for dental care cannot be imposed under the Eighth Amendment. In both ar eas of law, the analysis is similarly contextual. The detainees also claim that the question whether the Jail provides timely “return to clinic” appointments is common to the class. However, to determine whether a return visit is “timely,” a court must look at evidence that will be unique to each individual class member. See McGowan, 612 F.3d at 640. As the district court correctly perceived, the differing testimo nies at the bench trial show that this inquiry would be partic ularly individualized in this case. John Saiger did not receive a return appointment to extract his broken wisdom tooth until 35 Indeed, the evidence suggests that the wait time before a face to face evaluation varied. Quentin Scott testified that he saw a physician’s assis tant, who was able to provide aspirin and ibuprofen, on the same day he submitted an HSR. Orlando Allen similarly testified that he received an evaluation from a registered nurse within twenty four hours of submit ting an HSR in October 2013. However, he also testified that he submitted two or three other HSRs earlier that year without receiving any evaluation. 30 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 five months after his first appointment. Alternatively, Or lando Allen received a return appointment within a few days of his first appointment. Stanford Thompson similarly testi fied that his return appointment occurred a week after ini tially seeing a dentist for tooth pain. Any or all of these indi viduals may have experienced deliberate indifference. See Smith v. Knox Cty. Jail, 666 F.3d 1037, 1040 (7th Cir. 2012) (“Even a few days’ delay in addressing a severely painful but readily treatable condition suffices to state a claim of deliber ate indifference.”). However, the detainees do not explain how the court can define a “timely” return visit without look ing at the circumstances of each individual case. The district court reasonably concluded that it could not resolve a ques tion about “timely visits” in a classwide manner. As noted earlier, we also recognize a second category of deliberate indifference claims alleging “that systemic defi ciencies at the prison’s health care facility rendered the medi cal treatment constitutionally inadequate for all inmates.” Cleveland Perdue, 881 F.2d at 430–31. In Wellman v. Faulkner, 715 F.2d 269 (7th Cir. 1983), for example, we found systemic deficiencies at a prison where two out of three physicians could not communicate effectively with patients because of a language barrier, a staff psychiatrist position had been un filled for two years, prisoners had been denied vital surgeries for two to five years, and medical supplies were being reused because they had not been restocked. Id. at 272–74. Similarly, in Cleveland Perdue v. Brutsche, we held that a plaintiff stated a claim of systemic deliberate indifference where a prison al legedly had failed to make any changes to its procedures fol lowing the death of an inmate who had been prescribed med icine over the phone. 881 F.2d at 428–31. In contrast, the plain tiff in Holmes v. Sheahan, 930 F.2d 1196 (7th Cir. 1991), who Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 31 only presented evidence about the medical care he himself re ceived, did not provide evidence of a widespread practice, and therefore failed to present a claim of systemic deliberate indifference. Id. at 1202 n.4; see also Gutierrez v. Peters, 111 F.3d 1364, 1375 n.10 (7th Cir. 1997) (determining that, “in light of [a plaintiff’s] overall treatment, the few incidents in which [the plaintiff] suffered delays in his treatment simply fail to reveal a ‘pattern of conduct’ evidencing deliberate indiffer ence” as articulated in Wellman). If plaintiffs can present classwide evidence that a prison is engaging in a policy or practice which rises to the level of a systemic indifference, then we can identify “conduct common to members of the class” which advances the litigation. Suchanek, 764 F.3d at 756 (emphasis omitted) (internal quota tion marks omitted); see also Jamie S., 668 F.3d at 498 (“[A]n illegal policy might provide the ‘glue’ necessary to litigate otherwise highly individualized claims as a class.” (emphasis omitted)). Indeed, the Ninth Circuit in Parsons identified as a common question whether there was a systemic “failure to provide timely access to medically necessary specialty care.” 754 F.3d at 664, 679 (internal quotation marks omitted). The court explained that where “variations undoubtedly exist” between each inmate’s treatment, the claim must be that a prison “regularly provides a level of [care] that is so inade quate that it exposes any inmate … to a substantial risk of se rious harm.” Id. at 680 (emphasis in original). Further, the court did “not hold that utterly threadbare allegations that a group is exposed to illegal policies and practices are enough to confer commonality.” Id. at 683. As Parsons suggests, a class action probably could be brought where plaintiffs presented some evidence that a 32 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 prison had a policy that regularly and systemically impeded timely examinations. See Portis, 613 F.3d at 705 (discussing the potential for common issues where “the class sought to estab lish that a jurisdiction had adopted a policy of deliberate de lay”). Similarly, a class action probably could be brought where evidence suggested that a prison had such a consistent pattern of egregious delays in medical treatment that a trier of fact might infer a systemic unconstitutional practice. See Holmes, 930 F.2d at 1202 n.4 (discussing how a pattern of un constitutional conduct can indicate “an entrenched practice that has the effective force of a formal policy”). Here, however, the district court correctly observed that the detainees’ “questions do not point to the type of ‘system atic and gross deficienc[y]’ … that would lead to a finding that 36 all detainees are effectively denied treatment.” A twenty four hour delay in responding to treatment does not automat ically constitute deliberate indifference in violation of the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments, and the detainees do not allege that the Jail has a specific policy that directly causes a wait following an HSR. Some of the alleged delays in return to clinic appointments “may constitute deliberate indifference 37 depending on the facts of the individual case,” but the de tainees do not present a pattern of egregious delays across the 38 entire class. See Gutierrez, 111 F.3d at 1375 n.10. Just as in 36 R.390 at 17 (quoting Wellman v. Faulkner, 715 F.2d 269, 272 (7th Cir. 1983)). 37 Id. 38 The detainees suggest that any delays in return appointments are the result of one policy: Cermak’s decision to vest a scheduling department Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 33 Wal Mart, proof of a systemic practice which could tie all the claims together is “absent here.” 564 U.S. at 353; see also Jamie S., 668 F.3d at 498 (vacating a class certification order because there was no evidence of a common illegal policy); Bell, 800 F.3d at 375 (holding that a prospective class had presented a common issue of fact when it “offered evidence” of “a broader company policy”). For these reasons, the detainees’ proposed questions do not address a gross and systemic defi ciency that applies to the entire class. Instead, the detainees bring a series of individual claims of deliberate indifference. See Cleveland Perdue, 881 F.2d at 430. The detainees still have, of course, legal avenues in which to bring their claims of deliberate indifference. First, the dis trict court did identify one common policy that might consti tute systemic deliberate indifference: Cook County’s decision with the primary authority to schedule appointments rather than the den tists themselves. However, that policy is not central to the claims of de tainees who did not experience a delay in return appointments and allege that their treatment was deficient for other reasons. More importantly, the detainees do not explain why a clerk in the scheduling department would cause longer waits between appointments than a dentist, much less how the decision to vest authority in a clerk was so misguided that it consti tutes deliberate indifference in violation of the Constitution. In fact, a den tist who disliked the policy testified at the bench trial that “it runs more efficient if scheduling does the appointments. It has us more—doing more—having more time to do procedures than scheduling patients.” R.453 at 83. The detainees have not invited our attention to any evidence which could prove that this policy is the cause of a delay in treatment. See Wal Mart, 564 U.S. at 353–55 (refusing to grant class certification on the basis of a “strong corporate culture” because the plaintiffs failed to present any proof that adverse employment actions resulted from this corporate culture). 34 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 39 to staff the Jail with only one dentist. That policy ended at some time before the district court issued its order, so the court certified a narrower class of detainees who received in adequate dental care before the Jail hired more dentists. That action is ongoing. Further, detainees may bring individual claims of deliberate indifference based on their own unique circumstances. We express no opinion on the potential merits of the pending class action or on any individual detainee’s claims. Rather, we simply hold that the district court did not abuse its discretion when it concluded, on the record before it, that the detainees’ claims do not present common issues of law or fact. We therefore affirm the district court’s decision to decertify the class. II While the appeal from the decertification of the classes and the consequent denial of request for injunctive relief was pending in this court, the detainees filed a motion in the dis trict court requesting relief under Federal Rule of Civil Proce dure 60(b). They maintained that new evidence established that there were common questions of law and fact and that class certification was possible. Invoking our Seventh Circuit Rule 57, the detainees asked that the district court indicate whether, on the basis of this information, it would be inclined to grant relief if we were to vacate the extant orders and re 39 The Ninth Circuit has recognized that “a policy and practice of severe under staffing” presents a common question that can be addressed on a classwide basis. Parsons v. Ryan, 754 F.3d 657, 679 (9th Cir. 2014). Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 35 mand the case for further proceedings. The district court de nied the motion, stating that it was not inclined to revise its order decertifying the class. The detainees now appeal the de nial of their Rule 60(b) motion. The detainees brought this matter to the district court’s at tention through a motion under Federal Rule of Civil Proce dure 60(b). That rule is, “by its terms[,] limited to ‘final’ judg ments or orders” and is “inapplicable to interlocutory or ders.” Santamarina v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 466 F.3d 570, 571 (7th Cir. 2006); see also Mintz v. Caterpillar Inc., 788 F.3d 673, 679 (7th Cir. 2015); Adams v. City of Chicago, 135 F.3d 1150, 1153 (7th Cir. 1998). Here, because the district court had not en tered a final judgment, the detainees’ filing was simply a re quest for relief from an interlocutory order decertifying a class. See Mullins, 795 F.3d at 657 (describing an order grant ing or denying certification as interlocutory). The detainees therefore were not permitted to file a Rule 60(b) motion. That said, the detainees, although unable to employ Rule 60(b) as a vehicle, were not altogether barred from presenting new evidence to the district court on the certification question in what amounted to a motion to reconsider the decertifica tion of the class, see Gary v. Sheahan, 188 F.3d 891, 893 (7th Cir. 1999), or an amended motion to certify the class, see McReyn olds, 672 F.3d at 486; Fed. R. Civ. P. 23(c)(1)(C) (“An order that grants or denies class certification may be altered or amended before final judgment.”). For a period of time, there appeared to be significant tension in our case law as to when the dispo sition of such a motion is appealable to this court. Gary placed severe restrictions on such an appeal, permitting one only if the district court “materially alters the [original] decision.” 36 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 188 F.3d at 893. McReynolds viewed the matter quite differ ently and saw this court as having far more flexibility in de termining whether an appeal ought to be taken. 672 F.3d at 486–87. It suggested that an appeal ought to be permitted whenever, “as a result of new law or newly learned facts, the [initial] denial of certification was erroneous.” Id. at 486. This standard, the court said, is necessary to permit the parties to avoid endless years of unnecessary litigation and to put the case on a path to speedy resolution. Id. It appears that this ten sion has been assuaged substantially and in all likelihood eliminated by our most recent decisions in Driver v. AppleIlli nois, LLC, 739 F.3d 1073, 1076 (7th Cir. 2014) and Matz v. Household International Tax Reduction Investment Plan, 687 F.3d 824 (7th Cir. 2012). It is clear now that, in concert with our sister circuits, we will allow an appeal only when the district court has issued an order “materially altering a previous or der granting or denying class certification … even if it doesn’t alter the previous order to the extent of changing a grant into a denial or a denial into a grant.” Matz, 687 F.3d. at 826. In this case, allowing appellate consideration of the mat ters raised in the detainees’ motion filed under Rule 60(b) would not foster, but would work to the detriment of, the pol 40 icy concerns that we have articulated in our cases. Here, the 40 We previously have construed Rule 60(b) orders as reconsiderations of interlocutory orders and allowed for appellate consideration. For exam ple, we construed a district court’s denial of a Rule 60(b) motion after a grant of summary judgment as a reconsideration of the prior summary judgment ruling. Mintz v. Caterpillar Inc., 788 F.3d 673, 679 (7th Cir. 2015). Similarly, we construed a district court’s order stating, pursuant to Circuit Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 37 district court made no ruling that altered, in any meaningful sense, its earlier decision. Indeed, the court pointedly said that, until we ruled on its earlier decision, any definitive deci sion on the matters raised in the subsequent motion would be premature. Moreover, the court noted that the detainees’ own approach to discovery might supply a basis for its decision 41 whether to reconsider the decertification. Rule 57, that it was disinclined to change its ruling denying injunctive re lief, as “the equivalent of the initiation of a new motion for preliminary injunction.” Adams v. City of Chicago, 135 F.3d 1150, 1154 (7th Cir. 1998). In those cases, however, unique circumstances compelled us to con strue the orders in this manner. In Adams, the plaintiffs filed a Rule 60(b) motion after we directed them to follow the procedure laid out in Circuit Rule 57. 135 F.3d at 1153–54. We noted that “we share[d] the responsibility for any confusion resulting from this patchwork process” and declared that “[h]enceforth, the Circuit Rule 57 procedure should be used exclu sively for final judgments.” Id. at 1154. In Mintz, we made an exception where “despite denying what it erroneously treated as a Rule 60(b) mo tion,” the district court “did review the belated submission and decided that it would not affect the grant of summary judgment.” 788 F.3d at 679. In other words, the district court’s analysis of the Rule 60(b) motion was indistinguishable from an analysis of a summary judgment motion. The order could fairly be construed as one concerning summary judgment without any change in the analysis. In this case, however, the district court engaged in a different review than the one we will consider. 41 See R.427 at 10 (“Now, a lot of the discovery problems were of your own making. … So my view is let’s have the Court of Appeals take a look at this case and see what they say. … I’m not—certainly not inclined to tell the Court of Appeals that I’m inclined to vacate what I’ve done before.”). In their brief in this court, the detainees also argue that there was an im permissible “asymmetry” to the discovery allowed each party. This argu ment is presented to give context to the detainees’ arguments on the sub 38 Nos. 14 3753 & 15 1616 Conclusion The district court did not abuse its discretion when it de termined that the evidence produced at trial required, in ac cordance with the Supreme Court’s holding in Wal Mart, the decertification of the classes that it had certified previously. Accordingly, the district court’s judgment in Case Number 14 3753 is AFFIRMED. Further, for the reasons stated above, the appeal in Case Number 15 1616 is DISMISSED. The de fendants may recover their costs in this court. stantive merits of its Rule 60(b) motion. For the reasons we have ex plained, any consideration of these matters on appeal would be, at best, premature.
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